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Old dogs CAN learn new tricks.  After past years of facing the harsh reality of returning too quickly to the real world after Pennsic, I added one extra vacation day so that I could spend a day unpacking, cleaning, and getting my bearings.  By the time I got to yoga class last night, I had finished the grocery shopping, the unpacking, the gardening, and the return to some semblance of normal.  Following a great yoga and cardio session, I stepped on the scale to see that I lost four pounds.  WTF?  Over a week of not working out, eating far too much fattening food, and drinking like a fish and I LOST weight?  I just don’t get it!

 

This Pennsic found me in a world of reflection – about the society, about myself, and about the directions I would like to travel.  Here are just a few of the random thoughts I have concluded:

 

 - Attitude.  I need to adjust my attitude.  I got politely called on the carpet by a dear friend about being too catty.  Sure I can be catty.  I don’t deny it.  And to the best of my knowledge, I typically do so in response to what I perceive as somebody else launching their claws.  I am, after all, a product of the Trimarian Shark Tank.  I certainly don’t mean to hurt any feelings.  To me, it is simply playful banter.  Regardless of the intent, the possibility exists that feelings can get hurt, and that just isn’t right.  People deserve better treatment, and this is something I need to work on.

 

 - Direction.  Let’s face it – I ain’t a young pup anymore.  (Le Gasp!  Le Shock!)  The Italian Renaissance clothing that I really like to wear and to make is young man’s clothing.  If I were to truly, truly, truly dress my age, I would be wearing the equivalent of either boring senatorial blacks or complicated, hot, and non-fitted floorlength housecoats.  Blech!  Boring!  Along with other reasons that I’d rather not go into, I’m thinking of hanging up the whole 15th century Italian thang.  This may not sound like a big deal, but for me it is huge.  15th century Italian is the very foundation upon which I have done pretty much everything in the SCA.  What to do instead?  Well, I enjoy the 9th century thang.  It is infinitely comfortable, practical, and works well in our climate.  It also gives me an outlet for embroidery.  In addition, I’m thinking of doing more 14th century.  It sorta cracks me up – the sewing is far less complicated than 15th century, and it is much more comfortable and practical.  Who knew?

 

 - Focus.  I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.  I have TOO MANY HOBBIES!  On the one hand, I really should focus more on some areas.  But the reality is there are just too many Really Cool Things to do and to learn.  Maybe some day I’ll achieve focus.  But for now, I’m still like a kid in a toystore – fascinated and intrigued by all the things out there.  It really is humbling.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeddie.livejournal.com
Tudor/Elizabethan or Landkenecht are other options.

Or you could stay with the 15th C. Italian, if you've got it flaunt it.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
The following is stated with Love, Laughter and Humor...Please read it as such.

doood!
You are NOT old!

We are too close in age for that to be allowed.
Granted my hubby is 42 and a grandfather thus making me a 37 year old grandmother (Michelle is a step, but I raised her!).

But darnit I am not old, I am thrilled to be where I am, I am reaching into myseld for my own power and happyness. I am taking control and I like that.

OLD is for sissies. You are NOT a SISSY.

No more of this old/ageism idea.

You are young, strong, beautiful, independant, talented, passionate, charismatic loving and loved! I feel safe in stating this given everything I have ever heard about you and your darling husband.

Old My Foot!

Now cut it out!


Moira

Date: 2007-08-14 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
LOL. OK good point. Please allow me to rephrase - I am no longer 16. How's that?

Date: 2007-08-14 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
That is better.

Besides - do you really want to be 16 again? *g*

Date: 2007-08-14 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
HELL no! I don't even wanna be in my 20's again!

Date: 2007-08-14 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
Sixteen? Good gods, who would want to be 16?

You could do early Tudor. Think of the fun you could have designing your large codpiece.

;-)

Date: 2007-08-14 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
Henrecian would be nice.
When Henry was happy with Wife #1?
Or late Henry VII - I LOVE the hats!

Granted there is something sinfully charming about Mid 15th C Italian.

What about Early 15th Flemish? or even Mid Burgundian.

You get to stay with 15th C.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
I'm thinking Henry VIII when he was about 24 years old, still happy with wife #1, and not yet gone to fat (or bald).

And the GINOURMOUS codpieces!

That would make our Pepe happy!

Date: 2007-08-14 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
I am not sure is Pepe is a person or simply a body part with personality, but if he is happy....well then it is all good!

Date: 2007-08-14 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
Sorry, Pepe is "Joe" in Italian. Peppino would be Joey.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
"Duh-uh" face palm. That's right.
I was using the gutter luge brain when I read that. **Grin/snerk**


Date: 2007-08-14 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
I like the way you think!

;-)

Date: 2007-08-15 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
Same problem. Sumptuary laws are such that the nicer outfits are for younger men.

Date: 2007-08-15 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
I don't think Tudor would particularly flatter me. And given the amount of work it takes, that is no fun.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southernpm.livejournal.com
Evidently, I'm low on caffeine...

I read that as "Post Penis Reflections". ;)

Date: 2007-08-14 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
Wow. Just.... wow.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacockharpy.livejournal.com
If I were to truly, truly, truly dress my age, I would be wearing the equivalent of either boring senatorial blacks or complicated, hot, and non-fitted floorlength housecoats.

But the doge hats are fantastic!

As for 14th century, do you mean Italian? I know your 9th is mostly Irish, so I was wondering.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
How 'bout first century Pict?

Naked and tattooed!

Image

Date: 2007-08-14 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
You are "helping" I can see that "helping" is your god given mission in this world! ***Grin***

Date: 2007-08-14 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
Mother always said to be helpful!

LOL

Date: 2007-08-14 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moira-ramsay.livejournal.com
hahahahahahahahahahhaah

Date: 2007-08-14 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacockharpy.livejournal.com
Woad hard and put away wet?

Actually, as I recall, our dear Giuseppe has already had adventures with woad. Why, one of his early appearances as Baron featured much woad application, although there were also more clothes involved than are shown in your example. :)

Date: 2007-08-14 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madknits.livejournal.com
I would love to see the pictures!

Date: 2007-08-14 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacockharpy.livejournal.com
If I had 'em, I'd share. The effect (with big embroidered cloaks, and so on) was really amazing.

Date: 2007-08-15 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
That would be at a different kind of event. :-)
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Date: 2007-08-15 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
I refuse to answer on the grounds that I will sooooo incriminate myself. :-)

Date: 2007-08-15 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacockharpy.livejournal.com
That sounds cool. And hey, a new area of research is always fun. :)

Date: 2007-08-14 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymont.livejournal.com
Now Way Da Minnit.
  • Joe Cook-Giles may be A Certain Age, but Master Giuseppe can be whatever age you make him.
  • In the 15th c., men were old at 35. In the 21st c., 35 is just coming into your own.
  • You have the physique and the health to wear 15th c. Italian cute young buck stuff.
  • Trecento clothes are bo-ring. Of course, there's no embroidery on them, which would allow you to do other hobbies (Yes, I'm enabling you.)
  • You are the only man in Caid who is doing 15th c. men's costuming RIGHT--it is your obligation as a Laurel and a guy and a fop to do this until someone comes along to pick up the torch.
  • You are eyecandy in your 15th c. Italian and it would be devastating to all of your viewers to take that away.
Yes, I'm laying it on desperately thick, but you know what I mean. Please, Joe, say it ain't so.

Date: 2007-08-15 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
LOL. Oh, how you talk.

Well, I've TRIED to get the torch passed for quite some time. In fact, I'll be teaching men's 15th c. Italian costuming at the next Collegium. People take my classes, but I really have yet to see anybody get that spark in their eyes and run with it. Le sigh.

Date: 2007-08-16 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyfrogboy.livejournal.com
People take my classes, but I really have yet to see anybody get that spark in their eyes and run with it. Le sigh.

I've had much the same experience trying to get men into 15c. Italian. I think there's a certain level of clothes horse-ness required to wear it, since it doesn't lend itself to casual wear as well as, say, 14c. English. Most of the clothes horse types skip straight to the flashy 16c. styles, which are easier to fake and have less of an "eek, hose!" factor.

Date: 2007-08-16 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
Yep. And let's face it, the practicality-factor just ain't there for the really later period. One of the best things about 14th century is that one CAN strip down to his underwear to set up camp and look perfectly period. To do so in 15th century is... less than ideal.

Date: 2007-08-16 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyfrogboy.livejournal.com
Well, that's why I made a bunch of light linen 15c day wear for Pennsic and/or working in kitchens. Not a high class look, but then neither is most of the comfy 14c men's wear you see. 15c undies also look pretty much the same as 14c undies, if it comes to that. In the end, I think the social class of the clothes has more influence on the practicality aspect than the century.

Date: 2007-08-14 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oakenking.livejournal.com
Re: focus/hobbies - I totally sympathize. I have so many gotta-try-that things lined up, I can't afford to die any time this century.

re: young Italian clothes - (and damn, that you were still on the Straight and Narrow Path when I was busily showing you my doublet linings!) - yeah, that's one of the major things that has kept me from doing "just a few" SCA things. I kind of want to go back to an event or two - but I've grown up (and out) so much that I don't know what I'd wear. I was always so attached to that cinquecento glory of waist-length hair and silk and velvet. I put on something that (with vigorous lacing) nearly fit for a Halloween party a year or so ago, and a paraphrase of Shakespeare ran through my head: "His youthful hose, well saved, a world not-wide-enough for his fat arse.."

I've seen some portraits of big robust Renaissance Italians - even made one of the suits for a friend of mine. But I just don't know if it would be the SAME without the very, very, tight tights.

Date: 2007-08-15 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
ROFL! You utterly crack me up. Yep, back in my str8 n' narrow days. Snark! Thank you, BTW, for pointing me in the direction of Birbari.

Date: 2007-08-15 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeguppy.livejournal.com
As for the "fat arse" comment, you were too thin back then. Methinkst you be cuter now.

Date: 2007-08-15 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiltedorange.livejournal.com
Losing 4 lbs while not working out and over-eating? Hmmm. I've got to get me some of that!

And Yeah for too many hobbies - life is too short not to try as many things as possible once. Better to regret having done than not, etc. etc.

just popping by for a quick look-see!



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